2013-08-28

Question all beliefs!


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Even if it is the common ground for SOME religious to prosper, I'm always surprised to find people that are ever-ready to believe anything as long as it is announced as a miracle. No matter if all the evidences clearly take them in a completely different direction.

This article is only about one of such miracles. Miracles that can be found in every religion that wants to be recognized as the only truth. It is not my intention to analyse the Qur'ân or make assumptions about it's content. This article is only to state that the proposed miracle is just what it is: an āyah that wants to state that God is the creator of all things. And with this I have no problem.

I found the proposition - that can be found in several places - in this Google+ post and goes as follows:


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(Principles of Oceanography - Davis, Discovery pp. 92-93)
Modern Science has discovered that in the places where two different seas meet, there is a barrier between them. This barrier divides the two seas so that each sea has its own temperature, salinity, and density.
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Another Miracle of the Qur'aan
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The Holy Qur'an mentioned that there is a barrier between two seas that meet and that they do not transgress. Allah taa'ala says in the Holy Quran:

{He has let free the two seas meeting to gather. There is a barrier between them. They do not transgress.} (Qur'an 55:19-20)

But when the Qur'an speaks about the divider between fresh and salt water, it mentions the existence of "a forbidding partition" with the barrier. God said in the Qur'an:

{He is the one who has let free the two bodies of flowing water, one sweet and palatable, and the other salty and bitter. And He has made between them a barrier and a forbidding partition.} (Qur'an 25:53)

One may ask, why did the Qur'an mention the partition when speaking about the divider between fresh and salt water, but did not mention it when speaking about the divider between the two seas?

Modern Science has discovered that in estuaries, where fresh (sweet) and salt water meet, the situation is somewhat different from what is found in places where two seas meet. It has been discovered that what distinguishes fresh water from salt water in estuaries is a "pycnocline zone with a marked density discontinuity separating the two layers." (Oceanography p. 242)

This information has been discovered only recently using advanced equipment to measure temperature, salinity, density, oxygen dis solubility, etc. Likewise the human eye cannot see the division of water in estuaries into the three kinds: the fresh water, the salt water, the partition (zone of separation).

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I respect all religious followers since they to not force me into anything, much less to believe in claims like this. It is my Human right to believe whatever I want since that believe does not harm in any way other human being or myself.

Since the Qur'ân allows self defence, I am defending myself from erroneous declarations from some of its followers. I recommend everyone to please take a moment to read this article: http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina41003p4.htm

For those that don't want to read it, here is the proof that this so-called miracle of the Qur'ân was already common knowledge at least a thousand years before the Qur'ân was written:

"The drinkable, sweet water, then, is light and is all of it drawn up: the salt water is heavy and remains behind, but not in its natural place.Meteorology by Aristotle, Book II Part 2

I know that even with this indisputable proof that the Qur'ân is not the first to present this scientific fact - making it NOT a miracle - , many of you will continue to, mistakenly, believe that it is. You can believe whatever you want, provided that you do not treat the rest of humanity as completely ignorant by making such utterly complete absurd statements.

I do not own the referred book, Principles of Oceanography by Richard Albert Davis (Jr.) nor I want to purchase it but it would be nice if I could have a copy of the pages quoted by the proposition.

Qur'ân was definitely not the first to talk about this so-called miracle barrier. I can go even further and say that the whole verse is wrong at the eyes of modern science. There is no invisible barrier! There is a process that is best explain by Oceanographers than by me. For that you can check a couple of articles that go even further and say the entire verse is wrong as it is wrong the claim that some scholars make of it being the first to do it:


or this one:


Claiming it to be a barrier proves what a simplistic way of describing that process. Process that was already heard of at least a thousand years before Qur'ân.

I will not question the belief that god is the origin of all nature because I just can not prove its existence or non-existence. The point in this verse is that it was god who created that "thing" that Muhammad calls "forbidden barrier". That is what must remain as a truth for those who believe and not the validity of the nature's process or even if it was the first account of it.

Islam as all other religions have to claim the truth for themselves or they have no real chances of survival as a religion.

These thoughts are of my responsibility and in no way I intend to disrespect the belief on the existence - or not - of god.  My ideas are just that; ideas, as to me - and for the time being - god is just an idea that among other things allows a part of humankind to cope with death manufacturing the idea of an afterlife. If the Islamic religion provides that safety net, I am just as pleased.

The difference is that I am open to question my own beliefs. Are you?